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Social Conditioning and Brain Change


So I have a theory that most of the ideas we hold to be true, or don't ever even question, are pretty random and a result of conditioning, among other things. Here's a quote from Tony Vigorito's book, "Just a Couple of Days". (Vigorito is a blast and does his fair share for Operation Mind-!@#$)

Tell me what this says to you or what you think about it.

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"That reminds me," Sophia asked with an abrupt air of sensuality. "Would you like some cheddar cheese, Flake? I made it from the milk of my own breasts. One hundred percent organic, free-range. Aged three years."
  I was astounded, horrified, and embarrassed. I was on the verge of either screaming or laughing out loud. "No thanks."
  "Are you sure?" She got up from the table and walked over to their solar-powered refrigerator. "Weren't you breast-fed?"
  "Don't be ridiculous. I was also weaned."
   "No you weren't," she teased. "I've seen you drink cow's milk.Thatsridiculous. You'd rather drink milk that comes from the teat of a cow than from a woman."



So, obvious lusty breast jokes aside, how would you respond if you sat down for coffee at somebody's house and the hostess offered her refrigerated breast milk for your coffee? And in light of the above quote, why?

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i wouldnt drink, cause i havent been familiarized. but yeah, i'm familiar with the cow milk human milk argument.

you should check into enculturation/acculturation/anything involving culture.

this is what i been tellin people for a while, you aren't YOU, you're simply a cultural object. niggas hold on so dearly to something like culture, like it means anything significant, as if it holds cosmic significance.

theres no such thing as right and wrong, good or bad, that !@#$ doesn't exist. a !@#$ like hitler end up the same place as everyone else, dead, thats it. that what funny about the whole concept of KARMA to me, who the !@#$ defines good/bad behavior? humans? emoticon? thats a bit ethnocentric if you ask me.

its like telling a male lion that hes wrong for slaughtering the babies of another pride (infanticide) emoticon? according to whom is that lion wrong? emoticon? is that lion headed to hell? im sure if nature had a problem with that !@#$, nature woulda regulated long ass time ago, the same apply to human systems, theres NOTHING WRONG WITH ANYTHING.

in its core, all actions are just actions theres no good or bad actions, at all.

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Male Mallards will also occasionally chase other males in the same way. (In one documented case, a male Mallard copulated with another male he was chasing after it had been killed when it flew into a glass window.


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If i was physicaly atracted to her i would accept, if not, i wouldnt.
Firstly out of curiosity as to know how it tasted.
You may be wondering, what would curiosity for taste has to do with physical atraction, well its simple, if i wasnt atracted to her body i wouldnt want to drink something that came from said body.
And secondly, because i find it would be a rather intimate/taboo/kinky activity almost touching the defination of alternative foreplay, so i would expect something more then just cookies after the milk and tea.

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If i was physicaly atracted to her i would accept, if not, i wouldnt.



I agree with weezar because I think that sexual fetishes are a result of social conditioning. Also, a preference to cows milk instead of human milk is a product of social conditioning. Cow milk is probably also the easiest milk to harvest, if there was also such an abundance of human milk then things might be a little different.
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Yeah I understand how the "taboo" might tint it with eroticism for some.
The question of social conditioning, can be extended to just about everything. For example, you ever watch people get that glazed robotic look when they stand and "pledge allegiance". It's like body-snatchers or Stepford wives scary.
Thanks for giving your thoughts on it guys.

Street,
Ding ding...you roughly stated my overall point most of the time.



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^ So how would you answer those questions?

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I appreciate the author using humor to ask questions about ourselves.

I see a tinge of the erotic as well and due to the "taboo" or naughtiness you mentioned. The bigger point for me is similar to what Street pointed out, that many of our ideas about yuckiness or taboo are societal, cultural etc and therefore more random than it appears at first glance. I think we live in the merry ole land of oz more than we realize with ideas like "royalty" "leaders" "gods" "capitalism" etc

Its interesting to see reactions though when various sacred cows are slain. Im actually actively working with my own.

I agree generally that "right and wrong" are random but I see too that this doesn't mean they aren't useful. The idea of murder being wrong for example keeps us from totally wiping each other out which is why the totally meaningless semantic line between war and murder has been installed.

At any rate. I'd turn the milk down for health reasons - but I dont drink any animal milk human or otherwise. I did have the expected reactions of "eww" and eroticism though. I just see it as constructed rather than as inherent.

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murder doesn't address all forms of death or actions involving death though, its a legal construct.

i wont use "murder", since its a legal construct, indicating that a certain form of "ending life" is always wrong, in the context of a specific society defining it

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Male Mallards will also occasionally chase other males in the same way. (In one documented case, a male Mallard copulated with another male he was chasing after it had been killed when it flew into a glass window.


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id drink soy milk over any of the two,
hahaha if some lady offered breast milk id pass even if she was attractive. not unless it was from the tap emoticon im jp.

do women really produce milk inside of the breast? cause ive seen my cousin just some kind of pump suculant object too put milk into the tit for the baby too suck from.

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emoticon, this !@#$ said "suculant object"

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Male Mallards will also occasionally chase other males in the same way. (In one documented case, a male Mallard copulated with another male he was chasing after it had been killed when it flew into a glass window.


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